Senate bill that would shut down Internet cafes like Allied Veterans won’t pass this year
By Joe Crankshaw
A bill that would ban “Internet cafes” such as the one run by Allied Veterans of the World and Affiliates in Vero Beach is “dead in the Senate,” according to a key committee chair.
Although the Allied group says its operation raises money for veterans, the Florida Council on Compulsive Gambling says it is nothing more than a location for “convenience gambling.”
State Sen. Nancy Detert, R-Venice, chairwoman of the Commerce and Tourism Committee, said no action will be taken against the cafes this year, but that doesn’t mean the proposal will not be back in the next session.
Allied operates an Internet cafe in a storefront in Vero Beach. Scripps Treasure Coast Newspapers reported last month on drastically different financial figures reported by St. Augustine-based Allied Veterans in the past two years — from a $4,331 deficit reported to the Internal Revenue Service in 2009 to more than $1 million donated to veterans causes in fall 2010.
Bills proposed by State Rep. Scott Plakon, R-Longwood, in the House and Sen. Steve Oelrich, R-Gainesville, in the Senate, would outlaw the use of simulated gambling devices like the machines used by Allied Veterans to run what it terms a “sweepstakes” contest in its Internet cafes in Florida. The bill has the backing of the Florida Sheriffs Association, the Florida Chiefs of Police and several other law enforcement organizations.
Detert said the bill is not being killed because it is a bad bill but because her committee has eight proposed changes to Florida law dealing with gambling. She said her committee staff has not calculated the impact of the several proposals on the state’s pari-mutuel industry and the compact with the Seminole Tribe.
“So, we aren’t doing any gambling bills in the Senate this year,” Detert said. “I have asked my staff to do a study over the summer, compare all the measures, examine the situation and make recommendations about a proper course of action.”
Oelrich and Plakon have both expressed dismay that their measure will not come to a vote during this session.
Allied Veterans of the World and Affiliates operates at least 39 Internet Cafes around the state. There are an estimated 500 similar operations in the state.
Usually located in storefronts in strip malls, each affiliate offers a number of computers displaying games of several sorts and allowing access to the Internet. Customers can be given 100 free minutes to use, after which they buy minutes. The minutes are recorded on a card that the customer uses in the computers to learn if they have won a prize of up to $5,000 in a sweepstakes.
Allied said it donates a portion of the money left after paying prize winners and operating expenses to veterans charities.
What amount actually goes to veteran and other projects is unclear from Allied records. According to its IRS form 990s, which are the income tax reports for nonprofits, in 2009, which is the last year they are available, Allied reported operating at a deficit but handed out some $2.5 million to various groups.
Kelly Mathis, Allied attorney and registered agent, said the organization has now given out some $5 million. But there is no evidence as to how much the organization took in through is Internet cafes.
Many law enforcement agencies contend that Allied and similar operations are really gambling. Allied cafes have been shut down in Pinellas and Manatee counties.
Authorities in Marion County have seized computers and arrested employees in about 20 locations in that county, including an Allied Veterans site. Seminole County has adopted an ordinance closing them down, but Allied went to federal court and secured a temporary injunction staying the action. The injunction was issued earlier this year but no hearing has been held on the matter.
Last year, Allied sought to get a statewide injunction but the Tallahassee court told them they had to sue in each county in which they have an affiliate.
Mathis said Allied’s games are legal, provide jobs, raise money for charities and should not be shut down.
Allied spokesmen did not return calls seeking for comment.
But the Senate action, while dooming the bills this session, does not mean there will not be change after the staff study ordered by Detert.
Detert said she does not know what recommendations will emerge from the study.
A study of the Internet cafes, adult amusement arcades and electronic game promotions for the state Senate in November 2008 concluded that patrons of the games and cafes could be cheated and that the laws needed to be amended to clarify what constitutes gambling. Several court rulings on the subject have also said the laws need to be amended.
Detert also said the adult arcades and Internet cafes might have become the new bingo parlors for the elderly in the state.
“I’m not sure what would happen if we closed them down, where would the elderly go?” Detert said.
Critics, including Plakon, point out the Internet cafes have created problems for communities where they are located and, because they sometimes have large amounts of cash on hand, become targets for criminals.
Last week, there was a shoot-out at the Allied Veterans Affiliate in Apopka. Three armed men entered the establishment, whose manager had testified before the Seminole County Commission that his business grossed $100,000 a week, and confronted a security guard with drawn guns. The security guard opened fire with his weapon, hitting one of the gunmen. They all fled, eventually throwing the body of the man who had been shot and killed onto the roadside.
It was the third attempted robbery of an Allied Veterans site this year, according to Plakon staffers.
Incidents like that have Plakon and others concerned. His bill is moving through the House committees, but without a companion Senate bill being passed, it will not become law.
That won’t be until at least next year. Still, Detert said she is familiar with Allied Veterans of the World and Affiliates.
“They are very wealthy and give only a little money to veterans,” she said. “I have told them to enjoy this year while we study the laws because they could be in danger of being out of business next year.”
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about 1 year ago
Jacksonville Florida: The negative impact of Allied Veterans of the World internet cafes is hitting hard in so many communities. Many are losing their homes, autos, and family are being destroyed by the addictions of family members to buying internet time and revealing sweepstakes at the local ALLIED internet cafes. There are also major differences in payouts.. depending on who you know, and your color./race. Many African American are losing their money, homes cars etc. Allied does not pay African Americans fairly, many have spent more than their white friends and have gotten paid far less…over and over and over again. This is the deal…ALLIED does not realize that many of their guest know each other and compare what they are paid over time….it is very clear to many now…… so many are not coming back to ALLIED. ALLIED should be investigated. Pure and simple this is cheating and totally unfair; if you lose it is by design not chance. IRS data will bear this out….view the 1099s and you can see the payout differences by race/color……using the driver’s Lic # to ID It is so clear. Plus view their redemption log…there again use the Driver;s # and ID by race…you will see the track record. It is no longer a question if the certain people have been cheated, it why have they been cheated…and treated so unfairly by ALLIED.
about 1 year ago
MANY VETS & THEIR FAMILIES MEMBERS WHO SUPPORTED AND TRUSTED ALLIED VETERANS ARE VERY DISAPPOINTED. WHY CAN’T THEY PROVIDE VETERANS WITH A REPORT OF ALL THE INTERNET TIME THEY HAVE PURCHASED..SHOWING THEIR DAILY DOLLAR AMT OF JUST A TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT. THIS A COMPUTER AGE..WE KNOW THE MANAGER CAN GET THE INFORMATION , BUT REFUSE SOME WHO HAVE ASKED FOR A REPORT BUT HAVE BEEN REFUSED…..THIS SHOULD CHANGE…EVERY CARD IS ISSUED USING THE DR. LIC # SO WHY NOT GIVE THE VET A REPORT.. I AM SURE THE OWNER KNOW WHO SPENDS AND HE VIEWS THE REPORTS….WHY NOT MAKE AVAILABLE TO THE VET OR PERSON SPENDING THE MONEY. ESPECIALLY IF YOU SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. .ANYWHERE ELSE YOU GET A RECEIPT BUT NOT ALLIED…. IF YOU ARE NOT CONNECTED TO AN EMPLOYEE, OWNER, OR SOMEBODY YOU WILL NOT GET PAID ANYTHING..YOU ARE JUST 1 MORE VETERAN OR PERSON THEY TAKE MONEY FROM. THERE IS NO CHANCE. IT IS FAR REMOVED FROM FAIR..AND NOT ON THE LEVEL OF A TRUE SWEEPSTAKES. MANY VETS ARE AWARE THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES ACTUALLY TRACK THEM (FROM THEIR HANDHELD SYSTEM) AND TAKE YOUR FUNDS.AND THEN CYCLE YOUR MONEY DIRECTLY TO THEIR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES WHO ARE THERE EVERYDAY GETTING PAID. IT IS VERY CLEAR
THIS IS VERY UNFAIR. THIS IS ROBBERY…..TO CERTAIN VETERANS. MANY VETS AND FAMILES HAVE LOST SO MUCH TRUSTING THAT THE SYSTEM AT ALLIED WOULD BE FAIR TO THEM…YES THEY UNDERSTOOD THEY COULD LOSE SOME BUT THOUGHT THEY WOULD FINALLY WIN SOME BACK..THERE IS NO GIVE AND TAKE..JUST TAKE FOR CERTAIN VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES. WHAT A “SCAM”
about 1 year ago
Justice will “RULE” There is a God; he looks at every business deal…..he has the final say not ALLIED. God hates cheating, and dishonesty period and HE will deal with each situation.. Just do not go back and do not allow your family members to go back.
about 1 year ago
STOP GOING AND TELL YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS TO STOP GOING TO ALLIED. THIS WILL SOLVE PART OF THE PROBLEM. GET YOU FAMILY AND FRIENDS TOGETHER FOR COOKOUTS, FREE FAMILY GAMES AND STOP PUTTING YOUR MONEY BACK IN THE HANDS OF UNFAIR INTERNET CAFE OWNERS.
about 1 year ago
THE VETERAN HAS CONTROL…JUST STOP! STOP! STOP! GOING THERE AND PASS THE WORD TO OTHER VETERANS AND OTHERS.
about 1 year ago
Yes! it is sad when a soldier or sailor comes home from war and finds his money is gone because the family member is addicted to going to ALLIED internet cafes and has lost all their savings and money that should be used to pay bills. The Vet feels that he/she has just come from war and now has to fight at home to get his family back on track financially(and that is not possible most of the time. So many families are torn apart and lose their homes, auto, etc because they have lost their money at ALLIED. What veterans and their familes must realize is this is not a “game room” it is a place that can spell danger for you and your family financially. The only game that is being played is with the veteran’s money. Who can afford this kind of game? More importantly who wants to play with the financial future of their kids, and family well being? Not to mention the mental condition of these veterans suffering from PTSD, ok they go to ALLIED, lose all their money, then they become deeply depressed, and find themselves homeless, no lights, and no food. Some VETS need to stay out of ALLIED period. If they keep their money, pay their bills, and try to get better mentally, that would be a better option for them. But please seek help if you find yourself deeply depressed after losing your money at ALLIED, do not harm yourself or family members…..seek help. It is sad, when you see veterans you know who are on medication for depression, lose their money, and then become totally depressed.. This is a really problem, but no one at ALLIED care all they want is the VETERAN’S money.
about 1 year ago
I agree with the above comments; because I have witnessed some veterans I know suffer from PTSD, use their monies to purchase internet time and reveal sweepstakes, losing over $10,000 in Jacksonville Florida, in a 4-month period at locations #44,40,,and especially #68. The employees at the counter were laughing and mocking them when they came in to play…. making comments like “They will not win anything out of here, “NOT” on my watch, and NO matter how much they put in they are not going to get paid. The veteran did not realize and thought the process was fair and that they would finally get paid at some point, and spent over $5000 in one month. We finally told the veteran to stop playing….stop going…. cause it seem….they had been set up not to get paid.. But there is no way anyone can spend that much at one location and not get paid at lease several “BIG WINS. That VETERAN winnings never reflected a big win, just chance 20 or 40 dollar bonus…..never a big win. This veteran was cheated…..and abused….sad.
about 1 year ago
SAD INDEED!!!!!! Thanks for helping that Vet out, and encouraging them to stop going. That VET is better off staying away and saving their money.
about 1 year ago
TRUE STORY: We have had several VETS in our group attempt suicide right after losing all their money at ALLIED. They spent their entire check !!!!!!!!! This is a real problem, no one seems to care about.
about 1 year ago
God Bless our Veterans, it is sad they trust ALLIED with their money period…that is not the place to go…just stay away..keep your money, take care of your family and yourself, and forget about winning money there…the only people winning are the owners……others really do not win, they might get some money but in the long run, if you go to places like ALLIED you never win. YOU JUST LOSE PERIOD.
about 1 year ago
Closed! Closed !!! Closed would be a beautiful thing to see at all of these establishments period. Poor folk hoping to win something would get over it quickly and move on. Lets face it the rich do not need these places..the poor keeps the doors open, lights on, and buy the snacks. Nothing is “free” just do the math. $1.00 per day is $365 per year..and most of these folk do not have $365 in their savings accounts, but they go to ALLIED and spend at least a $1.00 or more per day. But saving is so hard for them to do. Get real, and stop being a fool.
about 1 year ago
ALLIED is a very clever idea, that has made somebody very very very very very rich. Yes, they have helped veterans, but somebody is setting pretty rich on the other end of this deal. So if you are too poor to play these games, leave it the HELL alone and keep your money cause the RICH guys are already rich and do not need your pennies or thousands any more they are already RICH! RICH! RICH! RICH!
about 1 year ago
THANKS ALLIED FOR THE GOOD YOU HAVE DONE IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. I WANT TO NAME A FEW THINGS THAT ALLIED HAS DONE AND IS CURRENTLY DOING:
PROVIDING JOBS
FEEDING THE HUNGRY: DAILY AT EACH LOCATION
HOUSING THE HOMELESS: DAILY JAXS HOME (CRC)
USO-ASSISTING TRAVELING VETS (JIA-USO)
CLOTHING THE NAKED
PURCHASING MEDICAL SUPPLIES(GULF COAST)
BUYING TOYS FOR KIDS
I AM SURE THAT THE VET, WHO PURCHASED SO MUCH INTERNET TIME, WAS AWARE OF THESE GOOD DEEDS BEFORE PURCHASING AND DONATING SO MUCH MONEY TO ALLIED IN ONE MONTH. IT MIGHT SEEM UNREAL, BUT SOME VETS WANT TO GIVE TO “ALLIED” WHEN THEY CAN BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE MISSION ALLIED HAS SET OUT TO ACCOMPLISH. SO NOTHING IS LOST, WHEN YOU PURCHASE TIME AT ALLIED IT JUST GOES TO KEEP THE GOOD DEEDS GOING. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DONATING A LARGE AMOUNT THEY HAVE A PERSONAL REASON, MAYBE THEY ARE JUST THANKFUL FOR ALLIED AND KNOW THAT THEY ARE HELPING SO MANY VETS AND LOCAL PEOPLE OR THEY HAVE LOST A LOVE ONE IN THE MILITARY AND WANT TO HELP AS MANY VETS AS POSSIBLE THRU GIVING TO “ALLIED”
ALL IS GOOD……THERE IS REWARD FOR DOING GOOD.
WISHING ALLIED GOD-SPEED!!!!!!!!KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!
about 1 year ago
So many Military familes are hurting from losing loved one in the wars. If you have ever set next to a crying parent or family member while visiting ALLIED and listened to them talk about losing their son or daughter then you would understand that being able to visit ALLIED for a few mins to take their mind off of their hurt is a good thing. Then if they win a few dollars, it lifts their spirits, and they get thru one more day. But just having some place to visit and talk to other veterans is a wonderful thing. ALLIED has helped so many veterans and their family members.
about 1 year ago
ALLIED HAS BEEN A GOD SENT TO FEEDING THE HUNGRY PROGRAM IN JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA. JUST ASK THE HUNGRY FOLK WHO HAVE BEEN GIVEN FOOD. IF YOU VISIT ALLIED TAKE TIME READ THE PAPERS AND LETTERS ON THE WALLS AT ALLIED VET CAFES ALL OF THAT IS “REAL”. ALLIED CAN NOT DO IT ALL BUT THEY ARE CERTAINLY DOING MORE THAN YOU MIGHT REALIZE. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ALLIED. MATTER OF FACT, ASK THE HUNGRY FOLK WHO STOP IN AND GET HOT DOGS, COLD WATER, DRINKS, HOT COFFEE, ETC EVERYDAY. THIS IS POSSIBLY THE ONLY MEAL THEY WILL GET THAT DAY.
SO ALLIED THANKS AGAIN.